When Does Subscription Turn into a Relationship?

September 1st, 2008 Posted in Social Media Community, friendfeed, relationship, social media, social networking

Recently this has been an ongoing thought in my head:

Do online relationships have the same depth as relationships off line? Can they obtain the same meaningful purpose as your friends you see in day-to-day life?

I have had some interesting conversations recently with people on Seesmic and Friendfeed about the friendship dynamics between online and off line relationships. I have only been debating this because of the increased time I have been spending on social media platforms over the past few weeks. I have had the opportunity to ‘meet’ some interesting and extremely intellectual people through feeds at Friendfeed.

The problem that exists, for me, is the overwhelming urge to know more. The desire to get deeper into a persons psyche and actually understand where they are coming from and where they have been. I have had fun debating and sharing in conversations over the communications platforms and yet I am left with this undeniable longing for something more.

The sharing of information and idea generation has always been a staple in the increased support of social media. I started using social media as a way to gain more insight into technology, entrepreneurship, and the overall aspect of viral marketing. What I have found is (while all the information is great) there is a point where a person stops and wants something more from a relationship or an acquaintance.

I have had extreme success in meeting people in my area off line whom I had the first interaction online. The relationship factor grows exponentially when you are sharing both online and off line forms of communication. I am relating more to the people I have met online who do not live in my vicinity.

I know research and data is a prerequisite to have in blog posts pertaining to an opinion. In order to support an idea it is always better to have others opinions to strengthen your own. Unfortunately, I am running off the cuff here and spouting words over a virtual page.

When is the right time to want more from an online relationship? Is there a need for it? I love the information super highway sometimes more than the road outside of my house and that is what bothers me the most.

How do you strengthen online relationships to the point where you can say they are a friend? Where does a follow or a subscription turn into a relationship?

Are we meant to delve deeper? We should be.

  1. 6 Responses to “When Does Subscription Turn into a Relationship?”

  2. By Rahsheen on Sep 1, 2008

    Interesting question.

    I have another for you, and maybe I’m only asking because I have been a geek too long:

    How do you know when mere association with someone in meatspace crosses the border to a full-fledged relationship?

    Maybe the same rules apply for online friends, or maybe there is some level of physical contact or presence that must occur.

  3. By Kyle Lacy on Sep 1, 2008

    First off, Did you just use the term meatspace? haha.

    I do believe there is some level of physical contact and presence that must occur in order to reach a level of friendship.

    Maybe there isn’t a level of contact, maybe it is more associated with content. I think words are one of the more powerful friendship building tools.

    Instead of sharing information and talking about random.. I like this picture.. I like this post.. It is about sharing about life and sharing about pain. I don’t know..

    Good question.. I am going to think on that.

  4. By Karen Swim on Sep 2, 2008

    Kyle, interesting questions. I view my online and offline relationships in the same ways. I have casual acquaintances and I have true friends. All of my relationships have deepened organically without any manipulation from either party. The relationship with my friends has deepened over time as we have gotten to know one another, shared in triumphs and challenges and grown closer as a result. My acquaintances are people I enjoy but the relationship is not a “deep” friendship. It really does not matter how you meet, I think all relationships progress naturally.

  5. By Brady Wood on Sep 5, 2008

    As with any relationship there are endless opportunities. My mom use to say (high annoying voice starts now)….

    There are consequences to everything in life Brady… They can be good or bad…. (stop annoying voice).

    So we are talking about the transfer of subscriptions to relationships. In my book there are some requirements to have a
    RELATIONSHIP of substance with someone.

    Karen mentioned acquaintances…. I’d agree.
    The people you talk to online are subscribers to your blog, they like to read your thoughts. You entertain them.

    I like to watch Oprah at midnight. That is about all I’d do for her. And I bet that is all she would do for me.

    Relationships that have great consequences require something more of you than conversing. I can’t satisfy you with a list or a definition of a relationship.

    I wouldn’t look at your online connections as if they are or aren’t relationships. Though you might pay attention to one person or the other depending on your recognition of them, but that will happen naturally.

    Subscribers are always relations. A connection of any sort is a relation, we can’t change that.

    Relationships capitol R (which I think you are talking about) have more to do with your heart, than your mind.

    Social Media has enabled you to begin the bonding process but I don’t think it can always totally fulfill the relationship void.

  6. By Tampa Bay Wedding on Oct 30, 2008

    The thing about having an online relationship prior to actually meeting is that expectations and mannerisms aren’t held back as much. What I’m trying to say is that people are comfortable looking at a monitor: The other person involved does not physically see them. Each person feels comfortable in their own element. Because of these factors, one is more susceptible to show who they really are personality-wise. This in turn brings anyone who is in a proverbial shell out in the open. If he/she does or says something revealing a bit about themselves, it almost feels natural because of the controlled situation. People who are in similar situations simultaneously (online game, chat room, etc.) can really get to know each other because it’s establishing a relationship of personalities. When the people involved get to a certain level where an actual “real life” meeting is warranted, each is less likely to shy away from it. Since they already know each other so well, when the meeting does occur, it’s often met with increased emotion. The bonding has already occurred: The physical meeting is literally icing on the cake. I have known many people who have met each other in this fashion. Of the ones I know personally, there have been 3 marriages, 1 engagement, and 1 serious relationship. In essence, it is extremely useful to have the ability to establish a relationship in such a fashion.

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  • December 31, 1969 at 5:33 pm Dave Ploch
    It seems the minute it turns into a conversation, there is a relationship developing. Prior to that it is somewhat voyeuristic since we are only listening in on someones thoughts and opinions. Relationships aren't always deep all encompassing affairs.
  • December 31, 1969 at 5:33 pm Kyle Lacy
    +1 Dave. Good Point
  • December 31, 1969 at 5:33 pm Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
    For me, the definition of a personal relationship is when I come across something and think "X would love to see this!".It indicates that I've interacted with the person enough to have them on relatively available mental recall and that I think I know enough about them to have a decent idea of what they'd be interested in.
  • December 31, 1969 at 5:33 pm Kyle Lacy
    +1 Tina
  • December 31, 1969 at 5:33 pm Lindsey
    Good points Dave and Tina. I will note: I do not treat my on line friends any differently than my offline friends. The only difference is how often they get to see me in person. And I have a suspicion that I am more available to my online friends ;)
  • December 31, 1969 at 5:33 pm Dave Ploch
    The serendipity of being in the same place at the same time is always fun whether it is physical presence or on line presence. I get a buzz anytime it happens since it tends to enhance that relationship every time. There are certainly a number of folks who act VERY DIFFERENTLY when they are on line and semi-anonymous.
  • December 31, 1969 at 5:33 pm Lindsey
    Hmmm . . . well said . . . however the same could be said of the internet. The chances that I have found certain people on the net also seems fortuitous and I wonder how I managed to bump into that person amongst all the asshats trolling teh interwebs ;)
  • December 31, 1969 at 5:33 pm Kyle Lacy
    The concept of connection is the same whether online or off. The question I have is whether or not you can reach the point of a "deep" relationship (however you would describe that) in an online environment. When do you stop and say, I would really like to get to know this person at a deeper level? Haha.. and I am not trying to say "romantically.
  • December 31, 1969 at 5:33 pm Lindsey
    It just depends on the kind of person you are. I have online friends that are dying to meet me, but in all honesty I'm not in any big hurry because I don't think anything will change fundamentally from me meeting them.
  • December 31, 1969 at 5:33 pm Kyle Lacy
    Why not test it out? You might be surprised.. ;-)
  • December 31, 1969 at 5:33 pm Lindsay Donaghe
    I met my husband on a telnet BBS... in fact I met my previous (to husband) 2 boyfriends on a telnet BBS as well... so yeah, you can get close on the internet... even without pictures and nice CSS layouts.
  • December 31, 1969 at 5:33 pm Kyle Lacy
    Well there you go Lindsay.. I rest my case.. were you looking for that with them? Or did it kind of turn into it?
  • December 31, 1969 at 5:33 pm Gregory Lent
    the connection is real, on subtle planes, i know, you tech-heads don't like that concept ... but a kind of mutual knowing and connection happens that is real, and english doesn't have a way to describe it, except for imaginary, and that doesn't fit the experience ... it is an astral phenom
  • December 31, 1969 at 5:33 pm Kyle Lacy
    Hey! I take offense to being called a techhead. lol.. You aren't being a little over the top Gregory? Please explain "astral phenom."

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